![]() So yeah I agree, there's definitely a "WW are pure evil" element here, I think the fact that this person was created against his own will plays a factor. The weird smirk is absolutely terrifying. Plus that look on the CoTF's face as she's driving that obsidian dagger through a dude's heart. The guy's reaction is clearly one of complete horror as he is clearly the centerpiece of some sacrificial ritual where he then becomes this abomination that, whether or not it's still "him" in there, is hellbent on murdering everything. There's also the fact that yeah, the WW are total assholes who murder everything in sight, that scene where they convert the man to a WW is terrifying. I'm definitely not a supporter of the theory whatsoever, but the WW being some sort of allegory for nuclear weaponry is pretty convincing. That style is actually what jump started the whole "Is ASOIAF sci-fi and really just post nuclear fallout" theory. It doesn't even seem like there are that many Others at all and that their army mainly consists of the dead.Īs many have said, GRRM is not just the Breaker of Tropes (which really, if you break all tropes, then breaking a trope becomes a trope, but I digress), he also incorporates a lot of anti-war, anti-nuclear stuff in his stories. What do you guys think? Is that likely all there is to their motive? And do you think it's possible there's still some Other civilization? It doesn't really seem like it to me, especially if the Night King is literally the same guy in Bran's vision who was turned. We don't know for sure, but it sure looks like their motivation is simply to kill the fuck out of the warm-blooders. That always influenced my thinking and made me believe there was some complicated, nuanced motive for what the Others were doing.īut now we find out that, at least in the show, they're just a weapon of the Children's that got out of control somehow. And also, they’re really ugly, the bad guys. We don’t need any more Dark Lords, we don’t need any more, ‘Here are the good guys, they’re in white, there are the bad guys, they’re in black. ![]() Much as I admire Tolkien, and I do admire Tolkien - he’s been a huge influence on me, and his Lord of the Rings is the mountain that leans over every other fantasy written since and shaped all of modern fantasy - there are things about it, the whole concept of the Dark Lord, and good guys battling bad guys, Good versus Evil, while brilliantly handled in Tolkien, in the hands of many Tolkien successors, it has become kind of a cartoon. There was also this quote from GRRM that always stuck with me about it: It was the biggest thing I was looking forward to. Maybe ice cities full of Others with young ones and women and such. I'm not really sure what I was expecting. I figured they had their own culture and civilization somewhere and maybe at some point (probably in one of Bran's visions) we'd get a glimpse of it. I figured they were just another Planetos race that evolved, like the Children and men and the giants, etc. I never really put much stock in that myself. So, you know, I'd heard people here suggest before that the Children might have created the Others.
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